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Reposting this from Threads, as people there were asking why some mastodon admins were defederating, and many there found it inexplicable, or even petulant: The fediverse (and all open systems) are about giving people choices, and giving communities power. Being able to block Facebook/Meta from connecting is a *demonstration* of that power …
Personally, I’m glad Threads is on the fediverse & will be following Threads users here. I also think Meta has caused unforgivable harms. Being able to have communities outside of Meta’s reach makes the internet stronger and *better*, not worse. Meta should be asking themselves how they earn more trust in the world.
@anildash I think the worry is not that Threads users will somehow spoil the Fediverse, but simply that this new interoperability announcement is a cover for something else. Like Meta using ActivityPub protocol to gather data on users, their discussion threads, build more profiles for ads etc. Why give them this data for free?
@roadriverrail @normis indeed. But sometimes people react to when a risk becomes visible, not just when the risk exists.
@anildash @normis I'm just saying I feel there's got to be more to the story here, you know? There's a reason for Threads to do this and it's reasonable to assume it's not a good one for the non-Meta world, but the "data hoovering" story doesn't grab me.
Some kind of embrace, extend, extinguish? Yeah, I'm still hearing that one out.
@roadriverrail @anildash @normis Meta sees the Fediverse as a potential threat. They quash threats early. E.g. Instagram and WhatsApp. They know it’ll be difficult to get Mastodon users to join them, so their plan is to make it all ‘interoperable’, AKA make 95% of the Fediverse Threads profiles. They’ll stop short of allowing Mastodon posts to be seen in Threads algorithmic feeds. This will entice a sufficient number of users to post from Threads accounts, thus slowing Fediverse instance growth.
@jamonbull @roadriverrail @anildash @normis It seems reasonable to assume that Threads' version of interoperability will be one-way, in an effort to increase Threads' user base at the expense of other fediverse instances. A reasonable counter is for fediverse admins and users to block Threads until interoperability is fully two-way.
@rdnielsen @jamonbull @anildash @normis Yes, this is something I could imagine happening.